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Fake Tradition Is Traditional

Quality
73
Strong
Claude Shift
46
Moderate
RWI
2
of 10

Follow-up reading

Clarification On "Fake Tradition Is Traditional" — clarifies the post · Jun 2024

Summary

Defends 'trad' appeals against two objections. The idealized-past objection (liking Indian food doesn't endorse flavorless rice or Modi — 'of the past' is just a pointer to the good feature, like paneer tikka, Moorish Revival, or the 1950s family). And the deeper hypocrisy objection (per Sam Kriss on the 1983-invented Hastings Jack-in-the-Green: past people didn't ape an idealized history, they 'just did stuff'; 'invention is real, tradition is fake'). Scott rebuts this as historically false: the Victorians did pseudo-Arthurian, neo-Gothic, pre-Raphaelite revival; the Renaissance was a re-naissance of Greco-Roman culture; the Romans obsessed over restoring Republican virtue (Macaulay's fake-Roman poem); even the Republic looked back to Saturn's Golden Age — revival all the way down. His psychological account: dreaming up something glorious from scratch is a status claim ('look at me, I can midwife divinity'), whereas laundering it as 'let's go back to how the Romans did it' is an easier sell and a release valve that lets people go wild without exposing themselves to attack. So looking back at an idealized past as a guide is the standard human method for getting anything done, and mocking it makes us do less than our (idealized) forebears.

Why this score

Quality 73 · Strong. Strong band, upper. A sharp two-part defense with a genuinely good historical observation ('fake tradition is traditional' — revival all the way down) and a clever status-claim/release-valve psychology, plus the clarifying tradition-as-pointer framing. Upper-Strong; short and pointed.

Claude’s paradigm shift 46 · Moderate. Moderate. Adjacent to Hobsbawm's 'invention of tradition,' but the recursive 'fake tradition is traditional' point and the release-valve theory are a fresh, sharp take.

Real-world impact 2 · Minor. A sharp two-part defense of 'trad' appeals with a genuinely good historical observation ('fake tradition is traditional' — revival all the way down) and the clarifying tradition-as-pointer framing. Conceptual influence within cultural discourse, short, no material change — low RWI.